GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX CONSTRUCTION

[Jack Linthicum]

Elena Blavatskaya raises her head to suggest to intelligent scholars
that the age of the Egyptian Sphinx is about 750,000 years, give or
take a few.



GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX
CONSTRUCTION
Vjacheslav I. Manichev1, Alexander G. Parkhomenko2
1Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of Sciences
of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
***@i.com.ua
2Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44
Volodymyrska Str., 01034 Kyiv, Ukraine; geo-***@kiev.ldc.net
ABSTRACT. The problem of dating the Great Egyptian Sphinx construction
is still valid, despite of the long-term history of its research.
Geological
approach in connection to other scientific-natural methods permits to
answer the question about the relative age of the Sphinx. The
conducted
visual investigation of the Sphinx allowed the conclusion about the
important role of water from large water bodies which partially
flooded the
monument with formation of wave-cut hollows on its vertical walls. The
morphology of these formations has an analogy with similar such
hollows
formed by the sea in the coastal zones. Genetic resemblance of the
compared erosion forms and the geological structure and petrographic
composition of sedimentary rock complexes lead to a conclusion that
the decisive factor of destruction of the historic monument is the
wave energy
rather than sand abrasion in Eolian process. Voluminous geological
literature confirms the fact of existence of long-living fresh-water
lakes in
various periods of the Quaternary from the Lower Pleistocene to the
Holocene. These lakes were distributed in the territories adjacent to
the Nile.
The absolute mark of the upper large erosion hollow of the Sphinx
corresponds to the level of water surface which took place in the
Early
Pleistocene. The Great Egyptian Sphinx had already stood on the Giza
Plateau by that geological (historical) time.
In the recent years one could observe the growth of interest
in dating the construction of the Great Egyptian Sphinx (GES),
which is determined, to a considerable extent, by new ideas
about geological factors which could influence its safety. In
view of another interpretation of the geological and
naturegeographical
data the historical-archaeological method for
determining the GES age (about 5000 years old) can prove to
be unfounded. The authors of the report have another point of
view in considering the problem. We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years. Are there some
geological indications which are evidence for such an old age
of the Sphinx? Consider the brief prehistory of the problem. <more,
pdf file>


Conclusion
A comparison of the formation of wave-cut hollows on the
sea coasts with erosion structures in the form of hollows
observed on the surface of the Great Egyptian Sphinx permits
a conclusion about the similarity of the formation mechanism. It
is connected to water activity in large water bodies during the
Sphinx submersion for a long period of time. Geological data
from literary sources can suggest a possible Sphinx
submersion in the Early Pleistocene, and its initial construction
is believed to date from the time of most ancient history.

http://mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf

[Jack Linthicum]

rOn Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:02:06 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum

Post by Jack Linthicum
Elena Blavatskaya raises her head to suggest to intelligent scholars
that the age of the Egyptian Sphinx is about 750,000 years, give or
take a few.

I doubt that you meant to suggest that Elena Blavatskaya (Madam
Blavatsky) was either the author or the inspiration for the article.

You would be wrong. She is quoted as an inspiration in the
abstract which Jack posted, and above which you wrote.
"We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years."
"Blavatskaya, Ye. L. 1937. Tainaya Doktriona. Vol. 2. Uguns,
Riga, 1008 p. (in Russian)"

The authors of the paper are Vjacheslav I. Manichev(1), Alexander G.
Parkhomenko(2)
[1. Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of
Sciences of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
2.Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44

Post by Jack Linthicum
GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX
CONSTRUCTION
Vjacheslav I. Manichev1, Alexander G. Parkhomenko2
1Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of Sciences
of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
2Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44
ABSTRACT. The problem of dating the Great Egyptian Sphinx construction
is still valid, despite of the long-term history of its research.
Geological
approach in connection to other scientific-natural methods permits to
answer the question about the relative age of the Sphinx. The
conducted
visual investigation of the Sphinx allowed the conclusion about the
important role of water from large water bodies which partially
flooded the
monument with formation of wave-cut hollows on its vertical walls. The
morphology of these formations has an analogy with similar such
hollows
formed by the sea in the coastal zones. Genetic resemblance of the
compared erosion forms and the geological structure and petrographic
composition of sedimentary rock complexes lead to a conclusion that
the decisive factor of destruction of the historic monument is the
wave energy
rather than sand abrasion in Eolian process. Voluminous geological
literature confirms the fact of existence of long-living fresh-water
lakes in
various periods of the Quaternary from the Lower Pleistocene to the
Holocene. These lakes were distributed in the territories adjacent to
the Nile.
The absolute mark of the upper large erosion hollow of the Sphinx
corresponds to the level of water surface which took place in the
Early
Pleistocene. The Great Egyptian Sphinx had already stood on the Giza
Plateau by that geological (historical) time.
In the recent years one could observe the growth of interest
in dating the construction of the Great Egyptian Sphinx (GES),
which is determined, to a considerable extent, by new ideas
about geological factors which could influence its safety. In
view of another interpretation of the geological and
naturegeographical
data the historical-archaeological method for
determining the GES age (about 5000 years old) can prove to
be unfounded. The authors of the report have another point of
view in considering the problem. We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years. Are there some
geological indications which are evidence for such an old age
of the Sphinx? Consider the brief prehistory of the problem. <more,
pdf file>
Conclusion
A comparison of the formation of wave-cut hollows on the
sea coasts with erosion structures in the form of hollows
observed on the surface of the Great Egyptian Sphinx permits
a conclusion about the similarity of the formation mechanism. It
is connected to water activity in large water bodies during the
Sphinx submersion for a long period of time. Geological data
from literary sources can suggest a possible Sphinx
submersion in the Early Pleistocene, and its initial construction
is believed to date from the time of most ancient history.
http://mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf

That the main body of the Sphinx is old enough to have been cut by
water does not mean that it was built by man before a lake was formed.
Parts of the north African desert contain wind-eroded stone pinnacles
with the potential to be shaped into a Sphinx. It is quite possible
that the original figure resulted from the opportunistic carving of an
existing wind and water eroded pinnacle.

--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald

I spent one day at a college, since dead, based on Mdme Blavatskaya's
mansion in Point Loma. Goofy house, goofy lady and I am sorry Eric
missed the irony of her beliefs..

[Melodious Thunk]

Post by Jack Linthicum

rOn Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:02:06 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum

Post by Jack Linthicum
Elena Blavatskaya raises her head to suggest to intelligent scholars
that the age of the Egyptian Sphinx is about 750,000 years, give or
take a few.

I doubt that you meant to suggest that Elena Blavatskaya (Madam
Blavatsky) was either the author or the inspiration for the article.

You would be wrong. She is quoted as an inspiration in the
abstract which Jack posted, and above which you wrote.
"We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years."
"Blavatskaya, Ye. L. 1937. Tainaya Doktriona. Vol. 2. Uguns,
Riga, 1008 p. (in Russian)"

The authors of the paper are Vjacheslav I. Manichev(1), Alexander G.
Parkhomenko(2)
[1. Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of
Sciences of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
2.Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44

Post by Jack Linthicum
GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX
CONSTRUCTION
Vjacheslav I. Manichev1, Alexander G. Parkhomenko2
1Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of Sciences
of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
2Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44
ABSTRACT. The problem of dating the Great Egyptian Sphinx construction
is still valid, despite of the long-term history of its research.
Geological
approach in connection to other scientific-natural methods permits to
answer the question about the relative age of the Sphinx. The
conducted
visual investigation of the Sphinx allowed the conclusion about the
important role of water from large water bodies which partially
flooded the
monument with formation of wave-cut hollows on its vertical walls. The
morphology of these formations has an analogy with similar such
hollows
formed by the sea in the coastal zones. Genetic resemblance of the
compared erosion forms and the geological structure and petrographic
composition of sedimentary rock complexes lead to a conclusion that
the decisive factor of destruction of the historic monument is the
wave energy
rather than sand abrasion in Eolian process. Voluminous geological
literature confirms the fact of existence of long-living fresh-water
lakes in
various periods of the Quaternary from the Lower Pleistocene to the
Holocene. These lakes were distributed in the territories adjacent to
the Nile.
The absolute mark of the upper large erosion hollow of the Sphinx
corresponds to the level of water surface which took place in the
Early
Pleistocene. The Great Egyptian Sphinx had already stood on the Giza
Plateau by that geological (historical) time.
In the recent years one could observe the growth of interest
in dating the construction of the Great Egyptian Sphinx (GES),
which is determined, to a considerable extent, by new ideas
about geological factors which could influence its safety. In
view of another interpretation of the geological and
naturegeographical
data the historical-archaeological method for
determining the GES age (about 5000 years old) can prove to
be unfounded. The authors of the report have another point of
view in considering the problem. We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years. Are there some
geological indications which are evidence for such an old age
of the Sphinx? Consider the brief prehistory of the problem. <more,
pdf file>
Conclusion
A comparison of the formation of wave-cut hollows on the
sea coasts with erosion structures in the form of hollows
observed on the surface of the Great Egyptian Sphinx permits
a conclusion about the similarity of the formation mechanism. It
is connected to water activity in large water bodies during the
Sphinx submersion for a long period of time. Geological data
from literary sources can suggest a possible Sphinx
submersion in the Early Pleistocene, and its initial construction
is believed to date from the time of most ancient history.
http://mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf

That the main body of the Sphinx is old enough to have been cut by
water does not mean that it was built by man before a lake was formed.
Parts of the north African desert contain wind-eroded stone pinnacles
with the potential to be shaped into a Sphinx. It is quite possible
that the original figure resulted from the opportunistic carving of an
existing wind and water eroded pinnacle.

--
Tom "Go Pack" McDonald

I spent one day at a college, since dead, based on Mdme Blavatskaya's
mansion in Point Loma. Goofy house, goofy lady and I am sorry Eric
missed the irony of her beliefs..

The Theosophy Society has a big wonderful house in Honolulu (Manoa),
just a couple of blocks from the University. Don't know why I never
went in...

[Eric Stevens]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:13:51 -0600, Tom McDonald

rOn Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:02:06 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum

Post by Jack Linthicum
Elena Blavatskaya raises her head to suggest to intelligent scholars
that the age of the Egyptian Sphinx is about 750,000 years, give or
take a few.

I doubt that you meant to suggest that Elena Blavatskaya (Madam
Blavatsky) was either the author or the inspiration for the article.

You would be wrong.

You are right and I am wrong. I must have read it too fast.

My apologies to Jack Linthicum.



Eric Stevens

[Jack Linthicum]

Post by Eric Stevens
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:13:51 -0600, Tom McDonald

rOn Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:02:06 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum

Post by Jack Linthicum
Elena Blavatskaya raises her head to suggest to intelligent scholars
that the age of the Egyptian Sphinx is about 750,000 years, give or
take a few.

I doubt that you meant to suggest that Elena Blavatskaya (Madam
Blavatsky) was either the author or the inspiration for the article.

You would be wrong.

You are right and I am wrong. I must have read it too fast.
My apologies to Jack Linthicum.
Eric Stevens

De nada, but thanks for the thought.

[Tom McDonald]

rOn Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:02:06 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum

Post by Jack Linthicum
Elena Blavatskaya raises her head to suggest to intelligent scholars
that the age of the Egyptian Sphinx is about 750,000 years, give or
take a few.

I doubt that you meant to suggest that Elena Blavatskaya (Madam
Blavatsky) was either the author or the inspiration for the article.

You would be wrong. She is quoted as an inspiration in the
abstract which Jack posted, and above which you wrote.

Here it is:

"We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years."

She even gets a mention in the bibliography:

"Blavatskaya, Ye. L. 1937. Tainaya Doktriona. Vol. 2. Uguns,
Riga, 1008 p. (in Russian)"

The authors of the paper are Vjacheslav I. Manichev(1), Alexander G.
Parkhomenko(2)
[1. Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of
Sciences of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
2.Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44

Post by Jack Linthicum
GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX
CONSTRUCTION
Vjacheslav I. Manichev1, Alexander G. Parkhomenko2
1Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of Sciences
of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
2Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44
ABSTRACT. The problem of dating the Great Egyptian Sphinx construction
is still valid, despite of the long-term history of its research.
Geological
approach in connection to other scientific-natural methods permits to
answer the question about the relative age of the Sphinx. The
conducted
visual investigation of the Sphinx allowed the conclusion about the
important role of water from large water bodies which partially
flooded the
monument with formation of wave-cut hollows on its vertical walls. The
morphology of these formations has an analogy with similar such
hollows
formed by the sea in the coastal zones. Genetic resemblance of the
compared erosion forms and the geological structure and petrographic
composition of sedimentary rock complexes lead to a conclusion that
the decisive factor of destruction of the historic monument is the
wave energy
rather than sand abrasion in Eolian process. Voluminous geological
literature confirms the fact of existence of long-living fresh-water
lakes in
various periods of the Quaternary from the Lower Pleistocene to the
Holocene. These lakes were distributed in the territories adjacent to
the Nile.
The absolute mark of the upper large erosion hollow of the Sphinx
corresponds to the level of water surface which took place in the
Early
Pleistocene. The Great Egyptian Sphinx had already stood on the Giza
Plateau by that geological (historical) time.
In the recent years one could observe the growth of interest
in dating the construction of the Great Egyptian Sphinx (GES),
which is determined, to a considerable extent, by new ideas
about geological factors which could influence its safety. In
view of another interpretation of the geological and
naturegeographical
data the historical-archaeological method for
determining the GES age (about 5000 years old) can prove to
be unfounded. The authors of the report have another point of
view in considering the problem. We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years. Are there some
geological indications which are evidence for such an old age
of the Sphinx? Consider the brief prehistory of the problem. <more,
pdf file>
Conclusion
A comparison of the formation of wave-cut hollows on the
sea coasts with erosion structures in the form of hollows
observed on the surface of the Great Egyptian Sphinx permits
a conclusion about the similarity of the formation mechanism. It
is connected to water activity in large water bodies during the
Sphinx submersion for a long period of time. Geological data
from literary sources can suggest a possible Sphinx
submersion in the Early Pleistocene, and its initial construction
is believed to date from the time of most ancient history.
http://mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf

That the main body of the Sphinx is old enough to have been cut by
water does not mean that it was built by man before a lake was formed.
Parts of the north African desert contain wind-eroded stone pinnacles
with the potential to be shaped into a Sphinx. It is quite possible
that the original figure resulted from the opportunistic carving of an
existing wind and water eroded pinnacle.

[Eric Stevens]

rOn Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:02:06 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum

Post by Jack Linthicum
Elena Blavatskaya raises her head to suggest to intelligent scholars
that the age of the Egyptian Sphinx is about 750,000 years, give or
take a few.

I doubt that you meant to suggest that Elena Blavatskaya (Madam
Blavatsky) was either the author or the inspiration for the article.

The authors of the paper are Vjacheslav I. Manichev(1), Alexander G.
Parkhomenko(2)
[1. Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of
Sciences of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
***@i.com.ua
2.Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44

Post by Jack Linthicum
GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX
CONSTRUCTION
Vjacheslav I. Manichev1, Alexander G. Parkhomenko2
1Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of Sciences
of Ukraine, 34a Palladin Av., 03680 Kyiv, Ukraine;
2Institute of Geography, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, 44
ABSTRACT. The problem of dating the Great Egyptian Sphinx construction
is still valid, despite of the long-term history of its research.
Geological
approach in connection to other scientific-natural methods permits to
answer the question about the relative age of the Sphinx. The
conducted
visual investigation of the Sphinx allowed the conclusion about the
important role of water from large water bodies which partially
flooded the
monument with formation of wave-cut hollows on its vertical walls. The
morphology of these formations has an analogy with similar such
hollows
formed by the sea in the coastal zones. Genetic resemblance of the
compared erosion forms and the geological structure and petrographic
composition of sedimentary rock complexes lead to a conclusion that
the decisive factor of destruction of the historic monument is the
wave energy
rather than sand abrasion in Eolian process. Voluminous geological
literature confirms the fact of existence of long-living fresh-water
lakes in
various periods of the Quaternary from the Lower Pleistocene to the
Holocene. These lakes were distributed in the territories adjacent to
the Nile.
The absolute mark of the upper large erosion hollow of the Sphinx
corresponds to the level of water surface which took place in the
Early
Pleistocene. The Great Egyptian Sphinx had already stood on the Giza
Plateau by that geological (historical) time.
In the recent years one could observe the growth of interest
in dating the construction of the Great Egyptian Sphinx (GES),
which is determined, to a considerable extent, by new ideas
about geological factors which could influence its safety. In
view of another interpretation of the geological and
naturegeographical
data the historical-archaeological method for
determining the GES age (about 5000 years old) can prove to
be unfounded. The authors of the report have another point of
view in considering the problem. We have taken the GES age
such as it was indicated by theosophist Yelena Blavatskaya in
one of her basic works (1937). She wrote: “Notice the
indestructible witness of evolution of Human races, from
Divine, and especially Androgynous race, the Egyptian Sphinx,
that mystery of centuries”. According to Blavatskaya the time of
GES erection should exceed 750000 years. Are there some
geological indications which are evidence for such an old age
of the Sphinx? Consider the brief prehistory of the problem. <more,
pdf file>
Conclusion
A comparison of the formation of wave-cut hollows on the
sea coasts with erosion structures in the form of hollows
observed on the surface of the Great Egyptian Sphinx permits
a conclusion about the similarity of the formation mechanism. It
is connected to water activity in large water bodies during the
Sphinx submersion for a long period of time. Geological data
from literary sources can suggest a possible Sphinx
submersion in the Early Pleistocene, and its initial construction
is believed to date from the time of most ancient history.
http://mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf

That the main body of the Sphinx is old enough to have been cut by
water does not mean that it was built by man before a lake was formed.
Parts of the north African desert contain wind-eroded stone pinnacles
with the potential to be shaped into a Sphinx. It is quite possible
that the original figure resulted from the opportunistic carving of an
existing wind and water eroded pinnacle.



Eric Stevens

[David]

...
That the main body of the Sphinx is old enough to have been cut by
water does not mean that it was built by man before a lake was formed.
Parts of the north African desert contain wind-eroded stone pinnacles
with the potential to be shaped into a Sphinx. It is quite possible
that the original figure resulted from the opportunistic carving of an
existing wind and water eroded pinnacle.
...

The Sphinx
http://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/History/Egypt/save/payne/payne.htm

David Christainsen

[Tom McDonald]

...
That the main body of the Sphinx is old enough to have been cut by
water does not mean that it was built by man before a lake was formed.
Parts of the north African desert contain wind-eroded stone pinnacles
with the potential to be shaped into a Sphinx. It is quite possible
that the original figure resulted from the opportunistic carving of an
existing wind and water eroded pinnacle.
...

The Sphinxhttp://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/History/Egypt/save/payne/payne.htm

That's the best you can do? A random google leading to a random link
to a random high school kid's homework on the Sphinx, complete with at
least two different citation styles, but no bibliography whatsoever?
And nothing from you about what in the link you thought it so vital to
present to the group?

I'll agree with some other posters who, if forced to choose between
you and Inger as a s.a. sideshow, would choose Inger because she is,
at least occasionally, capable of presenting relevant, on-topic
information; discussing that information; and has some capacity to
evaluate archaeological evidence.

You? Not so much.

[David]

Post by Tom McDonald

...
That the main body of the Sphinx is old enough to have been cut by
water does not mean that it was built by man before a lake was formed.
Parts of the north African desert contain wind-eroded stone pinnacles
with the potential to be shaped into a Sphinx. It is quite possible
that the original figure resulted from the opportunistic carving of an
existing wind and water eroded pinnacle.
...

The Sphinxhttp://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/History/Egypt/save/payne/payne.htm

That's the best you can do? A random google leading to a random link
to a random high school kid's homework on the Sphinx, complete with at
least two different citation styles, but no bibliography whatsoever?
And nothing from you about what in the link you thought it so vital to
present to the group?
I'll agree with some other posters who, if forced to choose between
you and Inger as a s.a. sideshow, would choose Inger because she is,
at least occasionally, capable of presenting relevant, on-topic
information; discussing that information; and has some capacity to
evaluate archaeological evidence.
You? Not so much.

You have an axe to grind that is totally
inconsistent with the party mood I am
ususally in, especially now on the Naviagator
of the Seas (Norwegian) while I am en route
to the Grand Cayman Islands...

When you calm down, you may ask me
respectful questions on what I know about
the correct dating of the Sphinx... If not,
I'll pick something else archaeological when
I get back.

Today I met the captain who is Norwegian as
I am...

Dave

[Tom McDonald]

Post by David

Post by Tom McDonald

...
That the main body of the Sphinx is old enough to have been cut by
water does not mean that it was built by man before a lake was formed.
Parts of the north African desert contain wind-eroded stone pinnacles
with the potential to be shaped into a Sphinx. It is quite possible
that the original figure resulted from the opportunistic carving of an
existing wind and water eroded pinnacle.
...

The Sphinxhttp://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/History/Egypt/save/payne/payne.htm

That's the best you can do? A random google leading to a random link
to a random high school kid's homework on the Sphinx, complete with at
least two different citation styles, but no bibliography whatsoever?
And nothing from you about what in the link you thought it so vital to
present to the group?
I'll agree with some other posters who, if forced to choose between
you and Inger as a s.a. sideshow, would choose Inger because she is,
at least occasionally, capable of presenting relevant, on-topic
information; discussing that information; and has some capacity to
evaluate archaeological evidence.
You? Not so much.

You have an axe to grind that is totally
inconsistent with the party mood I am
ususally in, especially now on the Naviagator
of the Seas (Norwegian) while I am en route
to the Grand Cayman Islands...
When you calm down, you may ask me
respectful questions on what I know about
the correct dating of the Sphinx...

With respect, what do you know about the correct dating of the
Sphinx -- the big one near the three Great Pyramids on the Giza
plateau. (I am not concerned about all of the other sphinxes in,
for instance, the great temples at Thebes, in the precincts of
Luxor).

Post by David
If not,
I'll pick something else archaeological when
I get back.

Why not stick with this topic for a while, instead of spreading
your efforts out over a bunch of other topics.

Post by David
Today I met the captain who is Norwegian as
I am...

That's nice. Have a good time.

[David]

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[JTEM]

The conducted visual investigation of the Sphinx allowed
the conclusion about the important role of water from
large water bodies which partially flooded the
monument with formation of wave-cut hollows on its
vertical walls.

The so-obvious-I-should-feel-like-a-fool problem with the whole
"Water erroded the Sphinx" myth is the fact that the errosion
never stopped. Never. The Sphinx itself was "Restored" at least
twice in ancient times, and it's being restored again today.

If that was too subtle for anyone than allow me to spell it out....

As far as anyone knows, and stretching well into ancient times,
the Sphinx has been erroding, and it has been accomplishing
this errosion without great(er) amounts of rainfall or free flowing
water. So, we have no choice but to conclude that if the Sphinx
does not need water to produce the errosion we are seeing
today... and it did not need water to produce the errosion that
was being witnessed in Roman times... and it did not need
water to produce the errosion that was witnessed during the 18th
dynasty when Tuthmosis IV restored it, then it certainly didn't
need any water prior to those times.

[Tom McDonald]

Post by JTEM

The conducted visual investigation of the Sphinx allowed
the conclusion about the important role of water from
large water bodies which partially flooded the
monument with formation of wave-cut hollows on its
vertical walls.

The so-obvious-I-should-feel-like-a-fool problem with the whole
"Water erroded the Sphinx" myth is the fact that the errosion
never stopped. Never. The Sphinx itself was "Restored" at least
twice in ancient times, and it's being restored again today.
If that was too subtle for anyone than allow me to spell it out....
As far as anyone knows, and stretching well into ancient times,
the Sphinx has been erroding, and it has been accomplishing
this errosion without great(er) amounts of rainfall or free flowing
water. So, we have no choice but to conclude that if the Sphinx
does not need water to produce the errosion we are seeing
today... and it did not need water to produce the errosion that
was being witnessed in Roman times... and it did not need
water to produce the errosion that was witnessed during the 18th
dynasty when Tuthmosis IV restored it, then it certainly didn't
need any water prior to those times.

You have put in words what was sort of sloshing around inchoate in my
brain.

Reading your post, I had a Huxley "how extremely stupid" moment.
Thanks.